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Does anyone use a version control system, like CVS or SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but better. IMHO.
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Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:
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At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
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mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
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_______________________________________________Does it integrate with MyEdit?
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We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but better. IMHO.
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:
Post generated using Mail2Forum (http://www.mail2forum.com)At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca) <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but better. IMHO.
Ryan.
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Does anyone use a version control system, like CVS or
SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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well maybe i should answer my own question in this thread too...
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare against Subversion or CVS?
-john
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare against Subversion or CVS?
-john
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:
Post generated using Mail2Forum (http://www.mail2forum.com)At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca) <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but better. IMHO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
Does anyone use a version control system, like CVS or
SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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Can you use a VPN to do the internet part?
2008/8/14 John Bowman <gothnerd@gmail.com (gothnerd@gmail.com)>
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Post generated using Mail2Forum (http://www.mail2forum.com)well maybe i should answer my own question in this thread too...
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare against Subversion or CVS?
-john
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca) <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but better. IMHO.
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SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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Not for what I want.
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Can you use a VPN to do the internet part?
2008/8/14 John Bowman <gothnerd@gmail.com (gothnerd@gmail.com)>
-john
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Can you use a VPN to do the internet part?
2008/8/14 John Bowman <gothnerd@gmail.com (gothnerd@gmail.com)>
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currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare against Subversion or CVS?
-john
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)> wrote:At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca) <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca (ryan@wcs.ab.ca)>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but better. IMHO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
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SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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There is no comparison of my system to the likes of Subversion or CVS
other than they are a VCS.
Subversion and CVS support concurrent checkins, patching and differencing.
My system, the DMS (Demand Management System), does not do that.
The DMS is similar to VSS in the fact that it is a locked check-out/check-in
system.
It maintain entire files and not deltas.
It is a modular system that has support for Version Control, Bug tracking,
To-do Items and Automated build scripting.
It's not free.
It also does not currently have a command line version.
It's a DB back end, that currently uses the Firebird RDBMS, but could also use
other RDBMSs, such as SQL Server, Sybase or Oracle.
Because I currently use Firebird, I can have any access to any repository that is
exposed to the internet. For example, I have a personal repository at home and
the repository here at the office. Both are accessible from the office.
Security is maintained by the DBMS engine and the use of firewalls.
It doesn't make any distinction between binary or text files.
My system is a different beast to products like Subversion, CVS or VSS.
I wrote it a number of years back because I wanted an all in one solution to
version control, bug tracking and automated building. There are a number of
other modules currently available, but these are the primary ones, IMO.
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other than they are a VCS.
Subversion and CVS support concurrent checkins, patching and differencing.
My system, the DMS (Demand Management System), does not do that.
The DMS is similar to VSS in the fact that it is a locked check-out/check-in
system.
It maintain entire files and not deltas.
It is a modular system that has support for Version Control, Bug tracking,
To-do Items and Automated build scripting.
It's not free.
It also does not currently have a command line version.
It's a DB back end, that currently uses the Firebird RDBMS, but could also use
other RDBMSs, such as SQL Server, Sybase or Oracle.
Because I currently use Firebird, I can have any access to any repository that is
exposed to the internet. For example, I have a personal repository at home and
the repository here at the office. Both are accessible from the office.
Security is maintained by the DBMS engine and the use of firewalls.
It doesn't make any distinction between binary or text files.
My system is a different beast to products like Subversion, CVS or VSS.
I wrote it a number of years back because I wanted an all in one solution to
version control, bug tracking and automated building. There are a number of
other modules currently available, but these are the primary ones, IMO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
_______________________________________________well maybe i should answer my own question in this thread too...
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in
and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files
in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does
yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare against
Subversion <http://directory.fsf.org/project/subversion/> or CVS
<http://directory.fsf.org/project/cvs/>?
-john
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I
usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product
with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>> wrote:
At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:
Does it integrate with MyEdit?
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<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but
better. IMHO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
Does anyone use a version control system, like CVS or
SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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[BR_forum] Version control
Thank you for explaining.
So far the user counts for various Version Control Systems by BR! Developers
are:
SourceSafe (VSS) - 1
Demand Management System (DMS) - 1
Does anyone else use one of these or anything else for this sort of thing?
-John Bowman
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Subject: Re: [BR_forum] Version control
There is no comparison of my system to the likes of Subversion or CVS other than
they are a VCS.
Subversion and CVS support concurrent checkins, patching and differencing.
My system, the DMS (Demand Management System), does not do that.
The DMS is similar to VSS in the fact that it is a locked check-out/check-in
system.
It maintain entire files and not deltas.
It is a modular system that has support for Version Control, Bug tracking, To-do
Items and Automated build scripting.
It's not free.
It also does not currently have a command line version.
It's a DB back end, that currently uses the Firebird RDBMS, but could also use
other RDBMSs, such as SQL Server, Sybase or Oracle.
Because I currently use Firebird, I can have any access to any repository that
is exposed to the internet. For example, I have a personal repository at home
and the repository here at the office. Both are accessible from the office.
Security is maintained by the DBMS engine and the use of firewalls.
It doesn't make any distinction between binary or text files.
My system is a different beast to products like Subversion, CVS or VSS.
I wrote it a number of years back because I wanted an all in one solution to
version control, bug tracking and automated building. There are a number of
other modules currently available, but these are the primary ones, IMO.
Ryan.
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are:
SourceSafe (VSS) - 1
Demand Management System (DMS) - 1
Does anyone else use one of these or anything else for this sort of thing?
-John Bowman
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Subject: Re: [BR_forum] Version control
There is no comparison of my system to the likes of Subversion or CVS other than
they are a VCS.
Subversion and CVS support concurrent checkins, patching and differencing.
My system, the DMS (Demand Management System), does not do that.
The DMS is similar to VSS in the fact that it is a locked check-out/check-in
system.
It maintain entire files and not deltas.
It is a modular system that has support for Version Control, Bug tracking, To-do
Items and Automated build scripting.
It's not free.
It also does not currently have a command line version.
It's a DB back end, that currently uses the Firebird RDBMS, but could also use
other RDBMSs, such as SQL Server, Sybase or Oracle.
Because I currently use Firebird, I can have any access to any repository that
is exposed to the internet. For example, I have a personal repository at home
and the repository here at the office. Both are accessible from the office.
Security is maintained by the DBMS engine and the use of firewalls.
It doesn't make any distinction between binary or text files.
My system is a different beast to products like Subversion, CVS or VSS.
I wrote it a number of years back because I wanted an all in one solution to
version control, bug tracking and automated building. There are a number of
other modules currently available, but these are the primary ones, IMO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
_______________________________________________well maybe i should answer my own question in this thread too...
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in
and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files
in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does
yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare
against Subversion <http://directory.fsf.org/project/subversion/> or
CVS <http://directory.fsf.org/project/cvs/>?
-john
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If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I
usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product
with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>> wrote:
At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:
Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca> <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but
better. IMHO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
Does anyone use a version control system, like CVS or
SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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John Bowman wrote:
_______________________________________________Thank you for explaining.
So far the user counts for various Version Control Systems by BR! Developers
are:
SourceSafe (VSS) - 1
Demand Management System (DMS) - 1
Does anyone else use one of these or anything else for this sort of thing?
-John Bowman
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Subject: Re: [BR_forum] Version control
There is no comparison of my system to the likes of Subversion or CVS other than
they are a VCS.
Subversion and CVS support concurrent checkins, patching and differencing.
My system, the DMS (Demand Management System), does not do that.
The DMS is similar to VSS in the fact that it is a locked check-out/check-in
system.
It maintain entire files and not deltas.
It is a modular system that has support for Version Control, Bug tracking, To-do
Items and Automated build scripting.
It's not free.
It also does not currently have a command line version.
It's a DB back end, that currently uses the Firebird RDBMS, but could also use
other RDBMSs, such as SQL Server, Sybase or Oracle.
Because I currently use Firebird, I can have any access to any repository that
is exposed to the internet. For example, I have a personal repository at home
and the repository here at the office. Both are accessible from the office.
Security is maintained by the DBMS engine and the use of firewalls.
It doesn't make any distinction between binary or text files.
My system is a different beast to products like Subversion, CVS or VSS.
I wrote it a number of years back because I wanted an all in one solution to
version control, bug tracking and automated building. There are a number of
other modules currently available, but these are the primary ones, IMO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:_______________________________________________well maybe i should answer my own question in this thread too...
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in
and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check files
in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line. Does
yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare
against Subversion <http://directory.fsf.org/project/subversion/> or
CVS <http://directory.fsf.org/project/cvs/>?
-john
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*Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:02 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [BR_forum] Version control
If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I
usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product
with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>> wrote:
At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:
Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca> <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but
better. IMHO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
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SourceSafe? If so, which one?
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Are you counting users or companies?
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John Bowman wrote:
accessible from the office.Thank you for explaining.
So far the user counts for various Version Control Systems by BR!
Developers
are:
SourceSafe (VSS) - 1
Demand Management System (DMS) - 1
Does anyone else use one of these or anything else for this sort of thing?
-John Bowman
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Subject: Re: [BR_forum] Version control
There is no comparison of my system to the likes of Subversion or CVS
other than they are a VCS.
Subversion and CVS support concurrent checkins, patching and differencing.
My system, the DMS (Demand Management System), does not do that.
The DMS is similar to VSS in the fact that it is a locked
check-out/check-in system.
It maintain entire files and not deltas.
It is a modular system that has support for Version Control, Bug
tracking, To-do Items and Automated build scripting.
It's not free.
It also does not currently have a command line version.
It's a DB back end, that currently uses the Firebird RDBMS, but could
also use other RDBMSs, such as SQL Server, Sybase or Oracle.
Because I currently use Firebird, I can have any access to any
repository that is exposed to the internet. For example, I have a
personal repository at home and the repository here at the office. Both are
primary ones, IMO.Security is maintained by the DBMS engine and the use of firewalls.
It doesn't make any distinction between binary or text files.
My system is a different beast to products like Subversion, CVS or VSS.
I wrote it a number of years back because I wanted an all in one
solution to version control, bug tracking and automated building.
There are a number of other modules currently available, but these are the
_______________________________________________Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:_______________________________________________well maybe i should answer my own question in this thread too...
currently we're using source safe, and we use procs to check files in
and out from the console.
I'm looking for a free alternative that enables peoples to check
files in and out over the internet. Preferably from a command line.
Does yours allow you to do that Ryan? If so hows does yours compare
against Subversion <http://directory.fsf.org/project/subversion/> or
CVS <http://directory.fsf.org/project/cvs/>?
-john
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*Subject:* Re: [BR_forum] Version control
If you don't mind my asking, how does it work?
I mean, do you use it for BR?
I'd like to find a good solution for protecting BR source code.
I know if you work with BR entirely in source code text files (like I
usually do) then you can integrate any source code repository product
with it. VSS integrates with pretty much any language that uses Text Files.
But I want to hear more about your solution.
Gabriel
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>> wrote:
At the moment, no. I haven't spent a lot of time on it recently,
mostly because it just works.
I do have a growing list of enhancements for it though. Maybe I'll
make it MyEdit friendly.
Ryan.
Gabriel Bakker wrote:
Does it integrate with MyEdit?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ryan J. Mills <ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca> <mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca
<mailto:ryan@wcs.ab.ca>>> wrote:
We use a home grown system very much like sourcesafe, but
better. IMHO.
Ryan.
John Bowman wrote:
Does anyone use a version control system, like CVS or
SourceSafe? If so, which one?
-John Bowman
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[BR_forum] Version control
I don't use a version control system at all. Well on second thought, I have a very prehistoric procedure that PRETENDS to be a version control system:
I don't store my source in source format. It's all in .wb files. I have a backup folder for each programs directory that contains all of the prior versions of the programs from that folder. I save each version with an file extension that is basically the version #. So for example, to modify my "CUSTUPD.WB/PGMS" program:
Presto chango, a rudimentary version control system for one person. No, it doesn't help if two people are working on the same program (that can't happen here - I'm a sole proprietor and heaven knows, no one around here wants to help me <s>). It has plenty of limitations. But since I work in one place ALONE, and I am VERY faithful about doing this little procedure every time I load a program to work on it, it's enough. I DO have an entire folder of all of the old versions of every program I work on and can easily go back if needed. When I need to go back to an older version for some reason, I use a wonderful program called EXAMDIFF to compare two versions to see the differences. This requires that I save both programs as source first, but that only takes a moment. I put this program on the conference CD a while back. There's a free version and a paid pro version which has more features (that I think is worth paying $35 per license for). http://www.prestosoft.com/edp_examdiff.asp
Under my WB directory, there is separate backup folder for each programs directory:
SRPGMS and it's backup folder SRPGMS.OLD
NVPGMS and NVPGMS.OLD
MSPGMS and MSPGMS.OLD, etc
It's better than nothing!
-- Susan
John Bowman wrote:
I don't store my source in source format. It's all in .wb files. I have a backup folder for each programs directory that contains all of the prior versions of the programs from that folder. I save each version with an file extension that is basically the version #. So for example, to modify my "CUSTUPD.WB/PGMS" program:
- LOAD CUSTUPD/PRGMS
- "List 20" to see the current version # which is stored in a comment line near the top of each of my programs
- COPY CUSTUPD.WB/PRGMS CUSTUPD.145/PRGMS.OLD
- Next I modify the line 20 comment line in the existing program to bump up the version # from 3.45 to 3.46 (the "3" being a major release in my case)
- REPLACE
Presto chango, a rudimentary version control system for one person. No, it doesn't help if two people are working on the same program (that can't happen here - I'm a sole proprietor and heaven knows, no one around here wants to help me <s>). It has plenty of limitations. But since I work in one place ALONE, and I am VERY faithful about doing this little procedure every time I load a program to work on it, it's enough. I DO have an entire folder of all of the old versions of every program I work on and can easily go back if needed. When I need to go back to an older version for some reason, I use a wonderful program called EXAMDIFF to compare two versions to see the differences. This requires that I save both programs as source first, but that only takes a moment. I put this program on the conference CD a while back. There's a free version and a paid pro version which has more features (that I think is worth paying $35 per license for). http://www.prestosoft.com/edp_examdiff.asp
Under my WB directory, there is separate backup folder for each programs directory:
SRPGMS and it's backup folder SRPGMS.OLD
NVPGMS and NVPGMS.OLD
MSPGMS and MSPGMS.OLD, etc
It's better than nothing!
-- Susan
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-John Bowman